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Post by Roma-_ Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:34 pm

what if mig33 team removes the kick option for normal users ? and design a special mig33 application for admins only ? i know its not gonna happen cuz here admins dont keep anything secret but will this stop multi kicking a bit ?
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:44 pm

they have to first make sure that each and every country gets more than enough admins...

if they can't do it then kick option has to be as its tough to get admins all the time

why we should allow offenders to dictate lol
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Post by Roma-_ Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:47 pm

but still
i guess this option will work if we remove kick thing there will be no kicking
and for admins there can be an option to kick
and somehow mig33 should first look for a solution for this FLOOOODING removal of kick option 586920
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Post by riz Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:28 pm

better idea to stop multi kick.

@aktel hardly normal and decent user use kicking option since ever team has put price tag on it. rarely an abuser gets kicked out by users voting. even though some one starts kicking, while abuser find he is about to be kicked, he/she simply leaves the room and returns once kicking failed.

so it never helps normal users. Only multi kickers are making most of it. so I think this is the only way to get rid of multi kicking. only admin should be given the kicking option.
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Post by Guest Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:39 pm

Webministrator wrote:@aktel hardly normal and decent user use kicking option since ever team has put price tag on it. rarely an abuser gets kicked out by users voting. even though some one starts kicking, while abuser find he is about to be kicked, he/she simply leaves the room and returns once kicking failed.


no way to disagree...

Webministrator wrote:only admin should be given the kicking option.

aktel.786 wrote:they have to first make sure that each and every country gets more than enough admins...

i already mentioned the reason mate...
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Post by Cinderella Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:04 am

Well if the kick option were removed,abusers will reign supreme cuz admins are already invisible,so u cant call them for help wen u need them. . then you'd have to sit n tolerate the dumb flooders n abusers
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Post by sc0rpi0n Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:46 am

well wat if we select 2 adminz for each rums.. Cool i mean the most popular user of rum who comez their daily or spend most of their time in rum..i knw its hard..but it can happen.. think about it.. Shocked
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Post by riz Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:56 am

Cinderella wrote:Well if the kick option were removed,abusers will reign supreme cuz admins are already invisible,so u cant call them for help wen u need them. . then you'd have to sit n tolerate the dumb flooders n abusers

now what can you do apart from calling an admin and waiting for them? can you kick out a multi kicker or a super flooder?

@ aktel still users have to depend on admins even though kicking option exists. I explained the reason already.

but yup mig33 team have got to increase admins and staffs while users have been increasing day after day.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:07 am

if mig33 team increases the number of admins...then i don't have complaints Smile
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Post by Arabian Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:11 am

lol guys forget it cus this will never happened, from kicking the founder of mig33 getting rich and rich Very Happy then y he will remove it?
Most of u must hav noticed that the way mig33 advitise kicking specially on the announcement msg that pops up when u 1st login.
And most of those who buy mig credit using them for kicking?
If u idea could bring more profit then it will be considered otherwise dnt waste u times.
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Post by Roma-_ Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:18 am

lol arabian you are saying as if u r the mig33 team member and we are giving u our ideas and waiting for ur approval
sorry but it aint like that
the idea of designing a new mig33 for admins would be better
or the option of KICK should be only for admins not for the normal users
as riz said however we still need an admin to kick for us and to get rid of multikickers we call admins
but if this KICK option aint there multi thing will be ended possibly
yeah if u talk about mig33 application owners profit that i have nothing to do with
we'd keep giving our ideas and wait for them to work
cuz the system that we have at the moment doesnt seem to be working
but thanks for ur idea arabian
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Post by riz Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:25 am

well said roma.

but what arabian said is very true as well. this is best way of making money. but still we can discuss and share our ideas no matter mig33 team listen to us or not.
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Post by happy Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:55 am

kick menu is not for admins only. its for all and kicking in mig33 is not illegal. only multi kicking and without reason kick is illegal.
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Post by Cinderella Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:56 am

Riz i'm talking bout roma's proposal that if kick option is removed from the normal user's menu,then how do u kick out an abuser cuz he wil be the main prob not multis who wil automatically cease to exist. . Then how do u deal with the abuser or flooder is my question?wait for an invisible multi to turn visible so that u can call him or her to kick that abuser?sorry romi,this option aint viable n is literally impossible for mig owners to bring bout as kicking generates quite an income for them.
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Post by Nothingness Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:00 am

many times normal user can kick absuer or flooder with cooperation if there is no admin to help them, if the abuser try to leave next time when he will enter a new kick will start.
But honestly speaking after the time mig team started to charge every kick ppl dont try to start kick coz it reduce their credit they just left room.
I m not in favour of removing kick option but its useless now a days.
N especially in case of flooding mig hang n we cant use kick option.
So cant say amything about it.Coz i m in favour of both.
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Post by Arabian Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:11 am

roama wrote:lol arabian you are saying as if u r the mig33 team member and we are giving u our ideas and waiting for ur approval
no bro but i knw hw greedy mig team are¿¿ Or tell me y most merchants r admin now?
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Post by Nothingness Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:19 am

Well arabian dont be rude,becoz of team we are using mig.
They are handling a big community n they are trying to solve every problem of users this process is bit slow but they are trying their best.
N roma is sister not brother.
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Post by riz Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:27 am

Cinderella wrote:Riz i'm talking bout roma's proposal that if kick option is removed from the normal user's menu,then how do u kick out an abuser cuz he wil be the main prob not multis who wil automatically cease to exist. . Then how do u deal with the abuser or flooder is my question?wait for an invisible multi to turn visible so that u can call him or her to kick that abuser?sorry romi,this option aint viable n is literally impossible for mig owners to bring bout as kicking generates quite an income for them.

what point of kicking an abuser which is going to be failed? I would get nothing except wasting some credit out of that. if my kick is enough to get a abuser out of chat room, then why we need admin? there is no need of admin.

@ happy bro we are not talking about legal and illegal, topic is, it would stop multi kicking. mig33 team has been trying since ages. but whats the outcome? has multi kicking ever been stopped? they put price tag, they appointed admins, but still no better and I guess it would never be possible to stop multi kicking as long as kicking option is there.
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Post by Arabian Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:47 am

[quote=""Well arabian dont be rude,becoz of Well arabian dont be rude,becoz of team we are using mig.[/quote]
haha team r not application but human who earn salary for their work NOT FREE.
wrote:They are handling a big community n they are trying to solve every problem of users this process is bit slow but they are trying their best.
thats y we givin our views so that thy may improve.
[quote=""N roma is sister not brother.[/quote]
Haha im really sorry? But why all mods r females here?
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:51 am

Arabian wrote:But why all mods r females here?

all aint females here lmfao...

now we gotta keep letting you know who are males and who are females??? lol

be smart Wink
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Post by Cinderella Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:27 am

Riz why wouldn't kick be voted on?abuse a girl in any pakistani room n watch how fast kicking starts lol. . Arabian not all mods on the forum are female. . Check out the genders on the information supplied below the avators haha
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Post by tears_of_cry Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:10 pm

umm, previously i was with this kick menu, as this kick menu is what makes mig33 alternate from all others... but, now its true its of know use... just waste of balance Shocked

Arabian wrote: But why all mods r females here?

lol... look out... 3 female and 4 male mod here Laughing
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Post by happy Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:50 pm

i know this topic is about the kick menu but wrote about legality of kicking in my last reply because some replys made me think that its illegal. anyway..
i'm not against this kick menu at all because it helps many users. there're thousands of room in mig33 and only 70-80 admins to look after the rooms which is not near to sufficient. i saw in many rooms users kicking abusers where no admins ever entered. what will the users do if they don't get the kick menu? just watch the abusers abusing?
i think you can only ask to remove the kick menu from mig33 when their will be an admin for each room like palltalk.
it seems you all lost against multi kickers. its not very hard to stop multi kickers if mig33 team want. just some simple ideas and updates can stop multi kicking from mig33 forever. for that we users have to help mig33 team instead of giving up. think about the logical problem of kicking system. an user can start a kick or vote just after entering the room and multi kickers are using this very smartly. we can see that nowadays rolling kick is very popular and bullet kicking was popular in past. its just for that logical problem. if mig33 team make a rule that an user can't vote just after entering a room, he have to wait for a certain time to be a voter because i don't find there any logic in giving the users the chance to vote or kick who has no idea about what's going on in rooms. this simple idea will surely stop the roll and bullet kick from mig33 forever.

and after that it will be very easy to stop room kickers because any user can call admin in that certain time(before an user become voter).
one more thing is nowadays every abuser leave room very fast if anybody start a kick against them. my suggestion is don't let the users left if any kick against him is running or let him left but keep his id in kick user list until the kick finish so that users can take there time to think and vote.

i've a loads of simple ideas which can remove multi kicking from mig33 forever. just need the help of staffs..
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Post by riz Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:20 pm

happy wrote:iwe can see that nowadays rolling kick is very popular and bullet kicking was popular in past. its just for that logical problem. if mig33 team make a rule that an user can't vote just after entering a room, he have to wait for a certain time to be a voter because i don't find there any logic in giving the users the chance to vote or kick who has no idea about what's going on in rooms. this simple idea will surely stop the roll and bullet kick from mig33 forever.

and after that it will be very easy to stop room kickers because any user can call admin in that certain time(before an user become voter).


i've a loads of simple ideas which can remove multi kicking from mig33 forever. just need the help of staffs..


its good that you think about stop multi kicking.

but dont forget many talents ( some of them are programmer, java specialist ) are thinking and working on developing abusing tools. if mig33 applies ur ideas and it puts off multi kicking, those kickers would introduce alternative ways and come back with it straight away.

happy wrote:one more thing is nowadays every abuser leave room very fast if anybody start a kick against them. my suggestion is don't let the users left if any kick against him is running or let him left but keep his id in kick user list until the kick finish so that users can take there time to think and vote..

thats true. an abuser is faster than an user. in fact an abuser aims to make trouble and irritate the users in chat room. they have got special third party tools, but an user? they dont come to chat room to fight against an abuser, I think an user dont enjoy playing with kicking things that they would stick to kicking option, waiting for return of the abuser.

@ cindy why only pakistan girls room? in every room kicking started against abusers but the thing is it gets end up with failure. as happy said, abuser leaves so fast. 9 vote takes 9 times more than just one click on leave the chat room button. and experienced kicker would never return in the middle. he/she would come back once kicking failed. then you wouldnt even be able to begin a new kick. If even somehow you managed to get him kicked, he would return with another account right away and would become more furious and worst. at the end of the day, you have to wait for an admin.

as happy mentioned, I like the idea of paltalk. they actually dont have an admin for every room. in paltalk each and every user got the authority to open up a room, once they opened up a room they become super admin of that room automatically and can make any one admin and super admin of their room.

so mig33 can apply this idea. room owner should be given admin power only for that particular room like paltalk. if he/she appears to be an unfair admin, users wouldnt go to their room. in this instance you can point out, then every one would open up their own room. yup thats right. so whats the worst? in paltalk every one has their own room but some rooms are still unique and popular, because their owner matters, their owner makes the difference.

now you can ask, what to do with popular rooms thats been opened up by mig33 or default room of mig33. yup there they can keep existing admins to patrol.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:41 pm

Webministrator wrote:
as happy mentioned, I like the idea of paltalk. they actually dont have an admin for every room. in paltalk each and every user got the authority to open up a room, once they opened up a room they become super admin of that room automatically and can make any one admin and super admin of their room.

so mig33 can apply this idea. room owner should be given admin power only for that particular room like paltalk. if he/she appears to be an unfair admin, users wouldnt go to their room. in this instance you can point out, then every one would open up their own room. yup thats right. so whats the worst? in paltalk every one has their own room but some rooms are still unique and popular, because their owner matters, their owner makes the difference.
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this seems a better idea. mig33 team can implement this idea. it is better than recommendation. it can consume work load and time of staffs. Also users dont have to fight with each other for admin status.
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